19 Sep
Posted by Jim as Academic, experiential education
The Experience of Co-op as seen several Years after Graduation.
Amanda Marsden NU ’08 and Jim Stellar
Amanda Marsden is a co-author with Rick Porter and me of the “Engaging the Whole Student” paper, the second post (2/17/09) and one that helped launch this blog. Amanda and I often talk about experiential education a habit from our early days together when I job-shadowed her electronically (by e-mail) on her first co-op that led to that paper. Now she has been working a few years, we just had an interesting conversation about lessons learned for permanent job from the 6-month positions on co-op. These may be particularly relevant for a woman in the workforce. We present the ideas as a conversation.
As a young female public relations profession, I am among the minority when I attend marine industry trade shows as it is male dominated. Another characteristic of the marine industry is its relaxed, less-professional business style which is only enhanced by the general “work hard, play hard” atmosphere at industry trade shows. My professional duties include planning various press events and conferences for these shows, however after the events and conferences have taken place, my only responsibility at the show is to socialize with clients, editors and writers. Often, I feel like my presence at the show appears ornamental, like I am there just to schmooze, and that colleagues may assume that I do not have a significant role within the company. I find it difficult to ‘prove’ myself at these shows where I am fighting against a relaxed, less-professional atmosphere and my “work” at the show is to socialize professionally.
What about this experience is connected to the fact that you are female (see the 6/20 blog about gender differences in leadership and the book “Disappearing Acts”) vs. the job structure itself at the show where your work being done before seems to leave you without that role?
I often reflect about my role at the trade shows and wonder what a different experience it would be if I were a young man and not a young female. I wonder if a young man in my position would feel a need to prove himself or if he would struggle with balancing relaxed professionalism in a male dominated industry. It’s difficult to say what about my experience is connected to being female and what is related to my job structure itself. If my role at the trade shows were more defined (i.e. taking meetings, running an event, etc) I would imagine I would feel more empowered at the shows as my “work” would be more obvious to colleagues and I felt it justified my presence not just at the show, but also within the company. However, because my “work” isn’t as tangible at the shows, I’m overly aware of how I come across while socializing professionally. The lack of obvious “work” elevates my insecurities of being a young female minority in a male dominated industry.
I was told by a colleague that one of the differences between women and men in the workforce is that women have a thinking pattern that is much more socially situated giving them heightened sensitivities to the people around them. In some circumstances, e.g. resisting the abuses of power, this sensitivity can be an advantage. In others, perhaps here, it seems to be a disadvantage. Do you agree with that?
Another advantage to women’s socially situated thinking pattern is the whole concept of Emotional Intelligence – perceiving, understanding and managing emotions in the workplace. There are many ways women could utilize this way of thinking to find ways to work more effectively with co-workers, solve problems and become leaders and managers in the workplace. However, I do agree that in this particular case, my heightened sensitivities to the people around me may be a disadvantage, causing me to be almost overly aware and self-conscious about how I appear to colleagues.
Another way to look at the issue you are helping us develop here is through the lens of what we have called in this blog “OtherLobe thinking” where the largely unconscious emotional-logic or even motor-logic circuits are working to help one figure out what is important and what is good for you, particularly in a social situation that is typically the work place. What do you think of that idea, particularly as you have now had multiple work-place experiences (although only 1 permanent after-college job)?
I think that “OtherLobe thinking” is an important approach for all professionals, but particularly for young professionals (such as myself) who are still trying to navigate in the real world. Questioning yourself and reflecting is a way of discovering what’s truly important to you not only professionally, but also personally. In previous workplace experiences, either co-op or other employment, critically thinking and analyzing made the difference between a negative experience and a positive one. I think what I’ve learned through this experience at the boat shows, is that while I may be overreacting to my perception of how colleagues may see me, it is important for me professionally and personally to be (and be seen as) an important member of an organization.
3 Responses
Alisa
September 25th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
1Hi Jim and Amanda,
The Q & A post was most interesting. I hope to add on it by adding a few comments that responds to some of your answers Amanda.
“Emotional Intelligence – perceiving, understanding and managing emotions in the workplace. There are many ways women could utilize this way of thinking to find ways to work more effectively with co-workers, solve problems and become leaders and managers in the workplace”.
-I Agree. If you carry yourself a certain way, people notice, more so, women notice. I get compliments/comments/questions from both sexes, but women are quicker & at least two times more likely to present a compliments/comments/questions, especially when you “stand out”. In my role as a Research Study Assistant (RSA), I work with approx 5-6 services within the Clinic Trials Office(CTO). Typically, RSAs are designated to one service within the CTO (ie. Melanoma, Sarcoma, Breast Oncology, Gynecologic oncology, GI etc). Essentially, I have more resources because of this. In addition, I choose to build my resources make my job easier, which maintains my reputation as an task executer amongst my co-workers. If these traits are a product of me being female, then it’s quite productive. I elaborate on the “standing out” or disadvantage aspect of this argument in the next comment.
“causing me to be almost overly aware and self-conscious about how I appear to colleagues.”
- To elaborate on this [Amanda's] paragraph. There is a downside to being so perceptive. I notice this amongst the RN/MD clinic assistants in clinic, mostly females. Their duties include scheduling clinic visits for patients, patient interaction, and guiding the flow of the MD’s clinic schedule. They may not notice, but they all look alike depending clinic floor. On one floor, assistants are generally laid back wearing similar slacks, blouses, and flats; in contrast to another floor whose assistants wear 3″ heels,micro dresses, and full makeup. New employees adapt the norm on both floors (even coverages from other floors). Each floor is only different by service, not by job title. It’s interesting when it stems away from team dynamic, but competition. I’ve noticed that within their uniformity, they work as individuals. It’s also interesting that they want to maintain their reputation amongst their peers and stay within the group, yet struggle with the want to break free/rebel. With that said, it’s an active decision to stand out for both sexes, within reason (i.e no Gothic clothes to work).You have to put your blinders on to “office politics” and focus on the prize of your growing career. I agree with being self-conscious but within the word “self” - focusing on “self” improvement, “self” advancement etc. Although, I also believe you need a team to get there, whom will remind you of being self-conscious.
“In previous workplace experiences, either co-op or other employment, critically thinking and analyzing made the difference between a negative experience and a positive one..”
- I Agree. My critical thinking involved saving all my appraisals and/or noting the feedback I received from each work experience, especially co-op. I did my co-op at the Schizophrenia Research Clinic at Mass General. On my co-op evaluation it mention my lack to make executive decisions and need to confirm with upper management. Similar in high school and some college classrooms, I expected the teacher to hold my hand and tell me what to do versus being a “go getter” and telling the teacher/professor what would like to know and expect from him/her. Fast forward to present - two jobs later I’m finally getting it. For my current job appraisal I was commended for having a clear insight to good decision making, especially executive decision making when my supervisor is not available. I just have to keep practicing, even when my motivation is low.
Thanks for the post you guys!
Alisa
Amanda
October 1st, 2009 at 9:56 am
2Hi Alisa - Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I’m glad to know that my experience as a female professional in the workplace isn’t an uncommon one. What I found most interesting were your observations about the other women in your organization. My situation is very limited (VERY small company, unique office environment) and I cannot really compare my experience to other women within the same organization or even notice differences between sexes. Particularly, the notion that physical appearance (ie clothing, makeup, hair) plays a part in individual and team dynamics. In the trade-show experience I wrote about, I focused primarily on my “appearance” as in what my colleagues see me doing, my role and duties. Am I just standing there chatting, am I running around, who am I speaking with, etc. The physical dress or uniform really adds a whole new dimension of appearance, something I never gave too much thought. I really enjoyed reading about your experiences and how you’ve personalized your co-op opportunities and have grown from them - thanks for sharing!
Jim Stellar
October 1st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
3Amanda, Alisa,
Good conversation. From the perspective of this blog I want to argue that these kind of personal perceptions/judgments are made in the same emotional circuits of the brain that are also used for evaluation ranging from career fit to evaluation of the completness of a conclusion (as in Damaiso). If so, ido you think that there is competition or confusion of processing when they occur together or does one inform the other. I know this is an opinion question, but I am interested (and in the opions of our readers).
-Jim
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